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How do you 'play' modes?

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Defualt User Imagenewbz0r
3:35 pm Thursday
July 28, 2005
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Ok, what I mean is how do you play the modes without using the box patterns? Because I've learnt these now, and I want to get abit more advanced, if you know what I mean. Any help appreaciated, thanks Smile
User ImageMike Lindyn
3:56 pm Thursday
July 28, 2005
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Right on, I get a lot of questions about this.

First this thread might help you understand what mode really are as well as how to use them. http://forum.guitarknowledgenet.com/viewtopic.php?t=10

But for "How do you 'play' modes?" there are a couple of lessons I will point you to.

The first is from the technique zone. This lesson shows the basic patterns I use. There are audio examples so you can hear what this should sound like too. http://www.guitarknowledgenet.com/GKN_TechniqueZone/BuildingSpeed1.html

Then once you've got these down there are two lessons in the lesson zone that will interest you. They are called Different Ways To Practice Scales Part 1 and Part 2. You can get to the lesson zone here http://www.guitarknowledgenet.com/GKN_Lesson_Zone/index.htm

Take a look at all these if you have more questions I'll be here to anwser them. Thanks for signing up.

Mike
Defualt User Imagenewbz0r
4:34 pm Thursday
July 28, 2005
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Ok, thanks. Those are all movable patterns, right?
User ImageMike Lindyn
4:47 pm Thursday
July 28, 2005
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Quote From newbz0r:
Ok, thanks. Those are all movable patterns, right?


Oh yeah. But if you think about it the right way all patterns on the guitar are movable.
Defualt User Imagenewbz0r
4:53 pm Thursday
July 28, 2005
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Yeah true. But sometimes you have to move stuff diatonically through scales and whatnot, right?
User ImageMike Lindyn
5:24 pm Thursday
July 28, 2005
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Quote From newbz0r:
Yeah true. But sometimes you have to move stuff diatonically through scales and whatnot, right?


Kind of but you can move every scale too so the diatonic movements are movable also. THis is the wonderful thing about guitar and other stringed instruments.
Defualt User Imagenewbz0r
11:53 am Saturday
July 30, 2005
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Ok, thanks for your help. I have another question.

When I play through they modes they they all sound more-or-less the same, they just sound the like the locrian mode sounds basically like a major scale except im playing an extra note.

I've noticed that when other people play through modes they sound different.

Meh, I hate modes.
User ImageT.A.Z
2:26 pm Saturday
July 30, 2005
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Quote From newbz0r:
Ok, thanks for your help. I have another question.

When I play through they modes they they all sound more-or-less the same, they just sound the like the locrian mode sounds basically like a major scale except im playing an extra note.

I've noticed that when other people play through modes they sound different.

Meh, I hate modes.


what i've found, is that the modes are better to make up chord progeressions to change the mood...

say you play a chord progression of, C - G - D - C, then improvise over it with a C Ionian mode, it would sound major, but then if you changed the chord progression to, Am - G - D- Am, then again improvised the C ionian mode over it, it would then sound minor.

And obviously as you change the Chord progressions, the more varied sound you will get.

Just adding what i found about them, it helped me to use them a little bit better.
User ImageMike Lindyn
5:32 pm Saturday
July 30, 2005
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Yeah I agree this goes right along with what I say in the Understanding modes thread. That is, it is the harmony (chord progression) dictates the mode not the melody.

See the main thing is how the progression resolves. Since the second progression resolves to Am the mode changes to A Aeolian. Even if the lead player keep playing C Ionian people hear Am.
Defualt User ImageDeleted User
9:33 pm Wednesday
August 22, 2007
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Every mode is in fact a 13th chord. Think about it, every mode has 7 notes; every 13th chord has seven notes. Look at the scale formula for these modes and the chords they create.

Ionian = 1-2-3-4-5-6-7 = Maj 13th chord
Dorian = 1-2-b3-4-5-6-b7 = Minor 13th w/ natural 11th
Phrygian = 1-b2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 = Minor 13th b9th
Lydian = 1-2-3-#4-5-6-7 = Maj 13th #11th
Mixolydian = 1-2-3-4-5-6-b7 = Dom 13th
Aeolian = 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-b7 = Min 13th
Locrian = 1-b2-b3-4-b5-b6-b7 = Half Diminished 13th

HI GUYZ WAS READING THIS FROM OLD POST AND GOT A BIT CONFUSED WITH THE WHOLE 13th CHORD THING......WHAT IS MEANT BY A 13th CHORD.....AND NATURAL 11th

FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND WITH THE ABOVE

(using c major scale)

ionian = 1(C)-2(D)- 3(E)............

this is where im a bit confused:

Dorian = 1(D)-2(E)-b3(F)-4(G)-5(A)-6(B)-b7(C) = Minor 13th w/ natural 11th

WHY IS IT b3 and b7 and NOT JUST 3 AND 7
DOESNT IT MEAN THAT YOU FLATTEN THE NOTE IF IT HAS A (b)........
SO THAT MEANS b3(F) WOULD BE E#............PLS HELP WITH THE CONFUSION
THANKS



User Imagejeremy
3:00 am Thursday
August 23, 2007
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That's weird. Why does it seem like this user posted porn threads in the Talk Freely forum but then posted a guitar oriented post such as this one?
Defualt User ImageDeleted User
6:53 am Thursday
August 23, 2007
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porn threads????are u joking..........i only registered last night and just wona learn guitar stuff....if we can just clear that up thanks
User Imagejeremy
11:23 pm Thursday
August 23, 2007
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Okay, Guest.

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